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Anyone catch all the negative nellie articles in the CH Local that have been published over the past few weeks.  A nice letter from PMBA may be a good idea.  A LOT of angry stories are surfacing about bad rider bahavior, bad language, bad etiquitte overall...

Here's an example.  There have been others as well but not all are posted on the CHlocal website.

Marauding mountain bikes

In several incidents on the upper trails of the Wissahickon, I have been threatened by cyclists. I have been bumped intentionally, and my life has been threatened. The exact words were, “get out of the way” and “I should kill you”.

In his recent letter [“Mountain Bikers have rights, too, Dec. 25] ,Tim Woods attempted to equate pedestrians and equestrians with mountain bike use of the upper trails.  Horses are not bikes. Horses have hearts, and blood, a pulse and a brain.

Families go to the Wissahickon Park to be in a natural area. They come because of the trees, the river, horses, the majestic natural looking landscape, etc., and the lack of vehicles.  The use of the mountain bikes on the upper trails diminishes this. Use of a vehicle on the upper trails is a privilege, not a right. A special use fee for the privilege to ride a vehicle on the upper trails of the Wissahickan is appropriate in this circumstance. The license fee would pay to enforce the rules governing bikes for the good of the Wissahickon.

If mountain bikers were not riding the upper trails in the ‘Wissy,’ would they care about the park, or for the Friends of the Wissahickon, or for storm water runoff or for trails maintenance, etc.? Every issue they get involved in from storm water runoff to trails maintenance is to secure leverage for the increased use of the upper trails for mountain bikes. Further, it is a beachhead for the Off Road Industry to access more natural areas, potentially at the expense of the greater remaining wild areas of the United States.

Next time you see a mountain biker marauding down a pedestrian trail  in the Wissahickon, on which mountain bikes are forbidden, let him or her know that you know. And shame on them.

Erik Werner
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Crackpot 101: Twist everything to fit your argument and make wild, unsubstantiated claims.

In my 13 years of riding and hiking this park, I've seen a lot of things but I have never seen a mountain biker threaten another user. Hell, I've never seen ANYONE threaten another user (unless you include dogs), much less threaten someone's life. And this guy gets involved in "several incidents?"

The good thing about crackpots is that most rational people take what they have to say with a grain of salt.

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totally agree.  unfortunately the people publishing are in 401 crackpot advanced seminar.  this is only one of such articles.  I agree with you.  unfortunately, the editorial integrity of the CH Local is fairly low and they publish just about anything.  It may as well be the inquirer. 

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Ugg.  Seriously, who cares if a horse has a heart and a brain.  If people weren't on them, the horses wouldn't be out hiking the Wissahickon by themselves.  The people are using them as a vehicle, living yes, but still a vehicle.  It's not wild.  In that use it's not any more natural than a MTB.  With improper use each can be damaging.  A horse given it's weight can do wicked damage.

That whole letter has a set of massive horse blinders on.

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i was actually going to write a letter to the CH local and try to get in something about how Lou and a few of the other guys helped me with my bike and how PMBA is a really good group.  again, this was just a thought that i might do, and probably will do, but don't get to excited, its just something that has been in my mind ever since Nate donated the frame to me and Lou started swapping out the parts. 

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Nice Callum. Riding bikes in the woods is a very positive thing. Riding bikes in general is extremely positve, but we all know this. Too bad this guy does not get it.

I feel bad for him and his negative attitude toward other users on the trails. It's sad that he feels like he has more of a right to be on the trails that a user using a different mobility than his. It's selfish. We do so many positive things because we love being in the woods just as much as everybody else.

If we do respond to this, we must make sure to take the high road. And remember that actions speak louder than words. Our constant selfless acts to help improve the trails for ALL users speaks for itself. You never see a mountainbiker telling other users they don't belong on the trails.

"Trails help humans make sense of a world increasingly dominated by pavement. They allow us to come more closely in touch with our natural surroundings, to soothe our psyches, to challenge our bodies, and to practice ancient skills"

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if i do respond to this, should i run it by you guys first to see  if it says what everyone wants it to say?

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Sorry Tom; I'm taking the low road here! 

That guy needs to get laid, and maybe we can get him a bike!  Any more frames laying around?..  He's obviously a very negative person! 

What is CH (Chestnut Hill)?...  We should have a reporter/editor/writer do something on IMBA (Philly)!  Was this article in a "Spout Out" section, or did someone do a report on it?...  What also sucks, is they probably only published this because of the negativity!  Which is why I hate the news, and news papers suck! 

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MTB has brought more people to the trails than anything since the invention of dog walking. What these people really resent is others getting out and enjoying the park.

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Yea this story is disgusting. For such a nice town (CH) I can't believe how many miserabe, negative, isolationist people exist. This clown is not the first or only hyper-negative soul in the Wiss, but as Coyle said, actions speak louder than words.

However, mark these words: Our (PMBA) momentum will NOT be reversed. We are like a heavy freight train gaining speed down the tracks, and we will be close to impossible to stop. We are picking up more freight, err people, all the time and our train is getting longer and heavier every day... I hope you guys understand my analogy  ;D

Callum, go ahead and write whatever you want to the paper, and make sure you tell them your age and love for riding your bike on the dirt trails. You will shut a lot of these negative people up because you and your story are really strong...

As far as an official response from PMBA, I don't think that is necessary. Well to be more specific, I don't have the time to do it. But any members should write to them themselves, so get to work people if this is worth your time and effort... 

Let the good times flow....  

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go callum.  do it.

i agree with all posts on this thread.  that horse comment is so SPOT ON!

the letter was not "reported."  it was a letter to the editor and if any of you read the chestnut hill local it is a bunch of whiners and complainers and the editorial staff runs their own show publishing totally biased articles with little editorial integrity. 

Yes- for a nice place it has its fair share of negativity.  its actually a string undercurrrent in the tow no matter how nice it looks.  there;s a lot of unhppy people there with the way the town is run....another story.

i think having them do an official story on the group is a nice idea but be ready for additional flack!  not that you guys cant handle it!  contact pete mazacaro the editor.  if they can get their heads on straight with all their internal politics maybe they can do a nice story...somthiwng about pmba, FOW, anfd the stewards of the park....

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I've never heard a mountain biker in Wiss threaten anyone!  Who are these mountain bikers? 
 
Albuquerque has a multiuser trail system inside the city limits and it had similar problems.  However in that case, someone was knocking mountain biker off their bikes. 

Also, WE DO PAY to use the upper trails ... or at least we did when there was a Fairmount Park Commission.

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Not only have I never been part of nor seen anyone being disrespectful in Wiss, the other users (horse, hiking or otherwise) have never seemed to mind our coexistence in the slightest in my experience. This guy must have had a bad experience or perceived bad experience and is now disgruntled. Can't make everyone happy, but I think the relationship that the majority of the park users have with each other are amicable if not solid. -E

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That was classic material by a real nutjob.  I got a couple good laughs out of it. 

I personally have trouble imagining mountain bikes "marauding."  The only explanation I can surmise is he had a bad acid trip where Ghengis Khan rode in on his Surly 1x1 and claimed the Wiss for the mongol horde.

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Great statements PAExplorer! I have to agree with you 100% and I really have noticed a significant increase in positive interactions with other user groups in the Wiss. And I say this from a mountain biker and also a hiker. I usually hike in the Wiss once a week and the vast majority of bikers have gone above and beyond to be courteous and respectful to me. Matter of fact I can't even say that one person was obnoxious in the last 3+ years. I think it's all in the attitude of each person. You can usually tell the "miserable" or "disgruntled" people by the look in their face and as long as you hit them with courtesy and politeness, even those people have a hard time being pleasant back to you...

These are obviously my personal observations compiled over 19 years of using the Wissahickon trails...

I won't even get into the details of the late 90’s incident where my brother Paul and I were confronted and violently accosted by a disgruntled hiker who knocked me off my bike while I was riding by. Needless to say I am very positive he regretted that decision and I can’t see him trying that again on another person. But he was a little “unbalanced” so who knows…

Just remember this is a LARGE CITY park and you will meet all types of individuals… It pays to be cautiously optimistic with people out there…

Let the good times flow....  

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Not sure if anyone sent a response to the CH local, but I took the liberty of writing one here at work.  Let me know what you think and if I should send it:

Quote:In response to the letter “Marauding mountain bikes,” I would like to challenge Mr. Erik Werner’s suggestion that mountain bikers are careless individuals who only take part in volunteer workdays to gain “leverage” for increased use of the trails.

The Wissahickon Valley Park contains a highly trafficked trail system.  Mountain bikers make up a significant portion of those park users, and like any group, occasionally a bad apple can be found among them.  I apologize for your bad experience with a mountain biker on the trails Mr. Werner, but it is unfair to categorize all mountain bikers as if we are a “marauding” motorcycle gang.

It is true that mountain bikers take on a lot of volunteer work to help preserve and maintain the fragile trail system of the park.  However, to think we do it clearly for our own gain is naïveté.  As a member of the Philadelphia Mountain Biker’s Association, I know that mountain bikers have made incredible sacrifices in order to make the trails more sustainable and usable for all park users.  We have done it not to gain any advantage, but because we enjoy the beauty and essence of the park just as much as any hiker, equestrian or trail runner.  Embracing the natural beauty of the park is the very reason many of us have picked up this sport. 

I understand you ran into a rude mountain biker Mr. Werner.  I have come across my own problems with park users.  I have witnessed hikers throw candy wrappers on the side of trails.  I have seen teenagers leave an empty thirty pack of beer scattered along a hill leading to one of the streams that feeds the creek.  All park users make an impact regardless of how they use the trail system.

Since forming in 2006, the Philadelphia Mountain Bikers Association has made it one of their goals to teach proper trail etiquette.  It is up to volunteers like us to teach new and inexperienced users the proper way to take care of the park.  I invite anyone who is skeptical about mountain bikers to join in a volunteer workday.  See what we are like and why we have put in well over 2000 hours of service in less than three years.  I believe you will learn a lot about the character of mountain bikers, and that one rude mountain biker does not represent all of us. 

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Very nice letter IMO Danny! I say send it over and see if they have the good judgment to print that, or if they just like unintelligent letters oooozing with negativity and false accusations... I bet the latter...

Let the good times flow....  

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aliens.  i see them all the time.

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nice letter.

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Ok I sent the letter.  I'll post up if I hear anything back and I'll let everyone know if they run it. 

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Sweet!  You can't change everyones attitude, no matter how much we try, but we can change the majority of attitudes, even if its only one person at a time.

This wasn't the first time we came accross this type, and will not be the last.
:K

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Nice letter!

As has been said, hopefully the paper isn't just looking for incendiary content to generate readership and is instead willing to publish an intelligent response. It'll be telling to see what they choose to do.

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DannyC21 beat me to it :-[ o well.  maybe i will still write one if this doesnt get in for some odd reason.

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Great work.  Callum, if you feel like you could write a good letter don't let one submission stop you!  You have a positive story and it's worth sharing, if you feel like it.

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Good job Dan!

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Quote:DannyC21 beat me to it  o well.  maybe i will still write one if this doesnt get in for some odd reason.

Callum, if you have something to say, then write it and send it.  I write for newspapers as a freelancer and I know the more letters an editor receives the more likely they are to run something.  Tell your awesome story about the new bike and PMBA!  Don't hold back just because I sent one letter.

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they will publish one commentary/letter on the same issue.  Callum- i say write it.

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Great letter Danny.

Hook it up Callum!! Keep the positive vibes rollin.

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alright, i will be working on it this week.

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i just submitted a letter to the editor.  will let you know if they pick it up.

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same

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